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  • Linus Tech Tips
    Linus Tech Tips  16 dagar sedan +2322

    The Apple fusion drive bit is a gag I should've probably presented better as a joke, lol. Basically, a Fusion Drive was Apple's take on the technology and I just thought sliding that in there would be comical. Unfortunately, not everyone knows that. Sorry for the confusion. :P

    -Editor

    • misternormL
      misternormL 6 dagar sedan +1

      ... And to take some of the sting out of it!! MYSPACE!

    • Janko Kinčeš
      Janko Kinčeš 8 dagar sedan

      just use microsoft feedback app. it is in start menu of windows 10

    • BratockaHacks320 Gaming & Vlogs
      BratockaHacks320 Gaming & Vlogs 8 dagar sedan

      Add some of those intel cards in the whonnock server

    • LA Free
      LA Free 12 dagar sedan

      HOLY CRAP THIS VIDEO IS LIKE 1/4TH OF A TERABYTE?

    • Lex van der Werff
      Lex van der Werff 12 dagar sedan

      Please don't go full-blown American by over stating a joke.

  • Jed Jade
    Jed Jade Timme sedan

    You need cache and shares the way UnRaid does them. Although the basic settings for mover are day/time based, I do believe there is the ability to write scripts for moving the content based on age, etc.
    I don't know if something like UnRaid actually fits your use case with this kind of well.. use, but I guess it'd be worth quick look to see if you can find out how to get mover to work the way you want.

  • Potato Bleach
    Potato Bleach 4 timmar sedan

    lmao just buy a new one

  • Defrauxche
    Defrauxche 8 timmar sedan

    Never has been an IT guy so emotional in the set up process :P

  • DLE_Gaming [GD]
    DLE_Gaming [GD] 12 timmar sedan

    I.T. PORN right here

  • Cyberfoxxy
    Cyberfoxxy Dag sedan

    "How did nobody at notice this.. for years." Every professional software... ever

  • Michael Summers
    Michael Summers Dag sedan

    Poor, Linus. He is in that deep, deep, deep, grieving stage. I should give him a crying towel.😏😏😏

  • Matthew de Bara
    Matthew de Bara 2 dagar sedan

    Where can I get one of those LMG jackets like you were wearing?

  • Squall88uk01
    Squall88uk01 2 dagar sedan

    Is that jacket gonna go on the merch store? I want one

  • mjc0961
    mjc0961 3 dagar sedan

    Why's Taran sitting out there?

  • mjc0961
    mjc0961 3 dagar sedan +1

    "Only 24TB of space" 😐

  • mjc0961
    mjc0961 3 dagar sedan

    Apple Fusion Drive. 🤣 Apple pretending that an SSHD is a special Apple creation.

  • Andrew Smith
    Andrew Smith 3 dagar sedan

    Bad editing in this one

  • K0gashuk0
    K0gashuk0 4 dagar sedan

    So the issue with the error, I got the same one today, is that it fails to calculate for overhead. I fixed the issue just by removing two 10ths of a gigabyte.

  • Declineto State
    Declineto State 4 dagar sedan

    Typical Microsoft enterprise server software. Half of the "ease of use" features are always broken.

  • Squinoogle
    Squinoogle 5 dagar sedan +2

    I'm confused: Linus didn't drop anything.

  • Andi Atom
    Andi Atom 5 dagar sedan

    Try the same with PrimoCache then

  • m1raqu
    m1raqu 5 dagar sedan

    more server videos like this please, much more interesting

  • Albert Arvizo
    Albert Arvizo 6 dagar sedan

    you know its bad when even linus can't figure something

  • Blank__ __
    Blank__ __ 6 dagar sedan +1

    Meanwhile PewDiePie got a shitty camera settings and uploads only in 720p

  • horse1066
    horse1066 7 dagar sedan

    ...

  • Krall Space
    Krall Space 7 dagar sedan

    7:03 c'mon Linus, you're gettin' carried away oot there!!

  • Jerry Powell
    Jerry Powell 7 dagar sedan

    Microsoft has not included ALL relevant commands on the GUI specifically with basic do Waterfall GUI to be advanced and use powershell. Gui is for basic layman no frills or expanded features. Sorry you got to spend $$$ to fix. Cost of doing business.

  • MrManerd
    MrManerd 7 dagar sedan

    What is the cheepest motherboard that uses ECC memory?

  • aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    I vote for building an entirely new server without knowing that it would work. You know, sometimes it is all about the journey.

  • Amar Babu
    Amar Babu 7 dagar sedan

    Pull out that wallet Linus......🤣🤣🤣

  • Robert Kielty
    Robert Kielty 7 dagar sedan +3

    iFixit sponsorship right up against Apple, brilliant!

  • Razvan Costel Vladu
    Razvan Costel Vladu 7 dagar sedan

    ONLY ONE PROBLEM ?

  • Devolutheist
    Devolutheist 7 dagar sedan

    People using Windows server solutions are making my eyes bleed.

  • Naes Depopa
    Naes Depopa 7 dagar sedan

    How do they capture audio in a server room? No visble lava on linus and shotgun would pick up too much fan noise?

  • rollerboogie
    rollerboogie 7 dagar sedan

    I was going to say.... How could you think that this drive would speed up giant files? It can only cache as much as the SSD stores and transfer that at a high rate. He said it's a joke though. So I guess I'll take his word for it.

  • Iván Hiroshi  Giotoku Rejas

    Linus, you'd try out Cisco's Hyperflex solution... www.cisco.com/c/en_ca/products/hyperconverged-infrastructure/hyperflex-hx-series/index.html?dtid=osscdc000284

  • Steve Spivey
    Steve Spivey 7 dagar sedan

    You're in a server room, but you still need a jacket? Dang, that's cold.

  • usssmart doofus
    usssmart doofus 7 dagar sedan

    7:19 I did not hit her, I did naaaat this is bullshit

  • Wapn Perfo
    Wapn Perfo 8 dagar sedan

    Intel 1TB NVme for $100... that what you neeeeed.

  • Justin Army General
    Justin Army General 8 dagar sedan +4

    Record in 4K problem solved kay good bye

  • Exophobias
    Exophobias 8 dagar sedan

    A SINGLE VIDEO using 366GB? Wtf. HOW

  • SLCPunked
    SLCPunked 8 dagar sedan

    Here's a solution for you: don't record in 8k video when 99% of your viewers are using 1080p or lower! No one can tell the difference between 1080p vs 4k in this use case, nevermind 4k vs 8k. No one would even notice if you switched to 1080p since they're too busy laughing at you stumbling through all your videos.

  • Judge Dredd
    Judge Dredd 8 dagar sedan

    I guess linus spent a shit load of cash to buy his toys...

  • Joe Ryan
    Joe Ryan 8 dagar sedan +1

    I am a professional storage engineer and I can give you some pointers if you'd like. But generally HSM isn't usually as instant as your explanation. HSM usually works on a heat system, and data is only elevated to higher tier after a data block is hit several times, and then "cools" and is demoted when it hasn't been hit for a while. Your test would not have triggered normal HSM tier elevation. That being said, I can't speak directly to your solution as I've never used it, but I would guess that it is not really different.
    Unfortunately for your needs you'd need SSD, or at least 10K SAS disks that can generate sufficient IO with low latency. Most HSM configs wouldn't do video editing much good so the speed has to be baked in.

    • Joe Ryan
      Joe Ryan 7 dagar sedan

      I'd also be remiss if I didn't point out that consumer 10K SAS disks really aren't worth it anymore as they still under-perform compared to SSD and have essentially the same $/gb price point. For the most part, 40ms latency is the threshold you don't want to exceed, since most DB related tasked get really finicky with disk latency higher than that (and block level tech like FC and iSCSI start dropping connection)... here is a rule of thumb for the IOPS a disk type can manage before bad things start happening:
      SATA: 40 IOPS
      10K SAS: 150 IOPS (can go a bit higher, but playing it safe)
      15K SAS : 200 IOPS (these don't really exist anymore since the precision required in a 15K disk greatly reduced the maximum size potential... as well as made a lot of noise and heat and the power to maintain 15,000 RPMS is considerable)
      SSD: This varies a LOT, with consumer disks ranging up to 30K IOPS while the enterprise 16 TB (err.. 15.3 TB) SSDs from Samsung churn out 230k IOPS per disk combined read/write
      Assuming you want to stick with your existing hardware and minimize cost, I don't see how you can avoid buying more SSDs. Look on the bright side: SSDs make almost no noise, use a fraction of the power of spinning disks, produce less heat, are much faster.. all for a small up-cost when compared to SAS disks.
      Also, you could try to land one of those bitchin' Samsung disks as a demo... but they cost more than that Intel chip you dropped... so be careful! :)

  • jamcdonald120
    jamcdonald120 8 dagar sedan

    0:30 you could also use tape drives

  • EdnaMarie”E”Mode
    EdnaMarie”E”Mode 8 dagar sedan

    $30 2tb seagate x 17 is $510

  • badass rap
    badass rap 8 dagar sedan

    what ever happened to your $100,000 computer/server videos i really miss those

  • Jacob Havinga
    Jacob Havinga 8 dagar sedan

    What about using RAM as cache ?

  • FSK1138
    FSK1138 8 dagar sedan

    simple solution ... STOP DOING 4K VIDEO ... 1080p is fine

    • Snorkel
      Snorkel 8 dagar sedan

      They have do that because of how youtube works

  • James Burt
    James Burt 8 dagar sedan +1

    Just buy 100 TB of battery backed RAM.

  • Reedith Graham
    Reedith Graham 8 dagar sedan

    it can be so hard to get usable info out of the editors sometimes like goddam people let me know if it's working so I can build you better editing computers!!!!

  • Tau ranga
    Tau ranga 8 dagar sedan

    07:14 ... oh hi mark

  • Sander Descamps
    Sander Descamps 8 dagar sedan

    I think the Dell SC series are well suited for these kind of workload. I've worked with these in the past and its a fantastic product that combines speed and capacity. Maybe it's worth looking into.

  • Daniel Christiansen
    Daniel Christiansen 8 dagar sedan

    Linus, any kind semi decent SAN could handle this, get a Netapp all-flash or something and be done with it :)

  • jonathan schoenherr
    jonathan schoenherr 8 dagar sedan

    Linus, it's really time for you to invest in a SAN solution and buy a storage array. I'd recommend Nimble.

    • Patrick Goggins
      Patrick Goggins 7 dagar sedan

      DIY NVMe build at $10k vs Nimble AF SATA SSD (nvdimm present) at $100k+....different budget worlds.

  • AwesomeVindicator
    AwesomeVindicator 8 dagar sedan

    how about stop uploading in 4k and dont expect to throw 400gb video files around like theyre GIFs

    • AwesomeVindicator
      AwesomeVindicator 7 dagar sedan +1

      +Juan Baca i mean , them handling 8k video is fine but they really shouldnt expect snappy performance :D

    • Juan Baca
      Juan Baca 7 dagar sedan

      Agreed. He is making an unnecessary problem for himself by filming in 8k. But he mentions all the time that he is an enthusiast for new technology, so he basis his channel on trying to find unique solutions to these new technologies. This video alone probably paid for his new server upgrade lol.

  • m h
    m h 8 dagar sedan +1

    Linus.. the secret is to not edit 8k footage.

    I've worked in features, commercials, VR, ride films, etc.. and never have worked at native resolution. It's simply not the ideal workflow, though it's admirable you're attempting it. An online/offline workflow is definitely going to be best.

  • Benklett
    Benklett 8 dagar sedan

    Linus says setting it up on Linux is too hard, but then continues by using powershell. :P

  • liveepically
    liveepically 9 dagar sedan

    Films on 8k red camera... .cant post in 16:9 to remove black bars on the most common display in use. What a bunch of clowns over at LTT

  • darknessviking
    darknessviking 9 dagar sedan +1

    making videos on youtube - in 8k yeah

  • Yazen Zaghameem
    Yazen Zaghameem 9 dagar sedan

    Get IBM V7000 hardware, offers easy tier. They have NVMe shelves now
    Can setup up to 4 controllers in a cluster
    Dedicated hardware for compression
    Supports replication
    Filers can work in active/failover

  • Rambojazdude
    Rambojazdude 10 dagar sedan

    That moment you realise you've been in the server room too long @8:48

  • dabos6
    dabos6 10 dagar sedan

    Why don't you use SAN? Something like Nimble or Netapp?

    • dabos6
      dabos6 9 dagar sedan

      +IncandescentWithRage
      I guess I missed that part

    • IncandescentWithRage
      IncandescentWithRage 10 dagar sedan

      You think that would be less than the 7k he was trying to save?

  • Ben Styles
    Ben Styles 10 dagar sedan

    LOL, don't use max fixed size, reduce it a few Meg and it will go through.

  • soccerguy2433
    soccerguy2433 10 dagar sedan +1

    Why record in 8k the upload that video to YT where everyone watches it in 1080p?

  • Danjamin
    Danjamin 10 dagar sedan +3

    bruh the sysadmin in me died a bit when I saw him logging into the windows admin account

  • Alo762
    Alo762 10 dagar sedan

    But did you really try FreeNAS of NAS4Free and ZFS with reasonably sized SSD cache disks? ZFS generally writes new files so that the data is sequential in disk so getting those files back is quite fast.

  • Nibelung Valesti
    Nibelung Valesti 10 dagar sedan +4

    Are they seriously editing files stored on network drives, and not locally? Amateur Tech Tips.

  • Xay DPS
    Xay DPS 10 dagar sedan

    Is ram

  • MAIN RIG
    MAIN RIG 10 dagar sedan

    2:50 back in the metal vagina that gave you birth its an onor serving us your knowledge

  • MoistCookies
    MoistCookies 10 dagar sedan

    Maybe just edit and store at 4k? Most of the world's media consumption is at 1080p. You know 8k is overkill regardless.

  • General ist
    General ist 10 dagar sedan

    I may be wrong, but I only heard LInus mention mirroring for fault tolerance and didn't hear striping for performance. I would have tried modifying my RAID level to offer mirroring AND striping.

  • wolcek
    wolcek 10 dagar sedan

    Hmmmm... Setting LVMcache was not that complicated. RAID6 on 8x4TB + RAID1 on 2x1TB SATA M.2. All is LUKS-encrypted.
    Honestly - I clog on CPU, that cannot encrypt ssh fast enough, or on wifi.

  • Name Geheim
    Name Geheim 10 dagar sedan

    Failure is always an option!

  • Justin Cheung
    Justin Cheung 10 dagar sedan

    Which filesystem was used for this project? Might see better perf with ReFS.

  • Stephen X
    Stephen X 11 dagar sedan

    I learn more from the comments than I do the video. Please make more videos.

  • Silvan Geissmann
    Silvan Geissmann 11 dagar sedan

    I like the promise of 'let's try the microsoft solution so we don't have to deep dive'... and then he's hacking in the microsoft 'solution' :D

  • PGBSPURS17
    PGBSPURS17 11 dagar sedan

    Why don't you run your current storage server on server 2016 and enable dedupe? Supports files upto 1TB... Should save some space!

  • K0gashuk0
    K0gashuk0 11 dagar sedan

    Another thing you will find with storage spaces is clustered storage. You can setup both your SSD servers and your regular storage servers together. Your best bet would be to add an SSD tier to this test server. Windows server will only use NVME primarily as cache. Adding about 10 TB of SSD storage will let the NVME start offloading data to SSD and then only after the data "cools" start offloading it to spinning drives. What you are asking about at the end is automatic but will certainly require an SSD tier because 1 TB of NVME will most certainly get filled by 8k editing in a hurry. Also, use microsoft's NVME to SSD to HHD ratio drive. Once you get too many spinning drives vs capacity to your SSD and NVME it will also start to choke.

  • K0gashuk0
    K0gashuk0 11 dagar sedan

    I was getting ready to ask why not windows server 2019 and you all did it!

  • Samuel Vasilevskiy
    Samuel Vasilevskiy 11 dagar sedan

    Soo
    I assume just adding mechanical drives or SSHDs as separate partitions and keeping the NVMes as your main drives isn't an option?

  • Robiovic
    Robiovic 11 dagar sedan

    I don't get it, why don't editors have fast shared storage, for example, 2 to 5TB very fast storage to the current projects, easy a cheaply made from SSD units and then they move the complete projects into the mirrored HDD long term storage.

  • RogueThermal
    RogueThermal 11 dagar sedan

    Why 8k videos with only 4k displays as the limit for people to watch and the editors and probably lower I dont see why use the 100000 dollar red camera for no reason

  • Ross Martin
    Ross Martin 11 dagar sedan +1

    Why oh why don't you guys have an offline online workflow? It will seriously drop your bandwidth for working edits. Is it just a time pressure thing? Would be interested to know why you dont work with proxy media then conform for your outputs.

  • Mark Gamble
    Mark Gamble 11 dagar sedan

    how come the Jacket ain't in the Merch store ??

  • Poushal
    Poushal 11 dagar sedan

    Those videos gonna be a painful watch when LTT goes broke..can't wait for the firesale though ;)

  • Stavr Ognev
    Stavr Ognev 11 dagar sedan +2

    Server 2012R2 s2d in 2019? Isn't 2016/2019 cores works way better with persistence memory?

  • Bhumipat Apipunnakul
    Bhumipat Apipunnakul 11 dagar sedan

    When did Taran get his private room?

  • ErXBout
    ErXBout 11 dagar sedan

    Why not using the existing server as the "ssd tier" and the other server you have build for the harddrive tier.
    I dont think you need to work with 24tb at once or do you? XD

  • Jakob Kosec
    Jakob Kosec 11 dagar sedan +3

    Do this .... or just film in 4K.

  • dbauernf
    dbauernf 11 dagar sedan

    Why is Linus allowed in the same room with editors.. IE the people who work? Please make that stop. :( They need a Linus free enviroment. :(

  • Sharky
    Sharky 12 dagar sedan

    dude, give them the best stuff you can. 8 people waiting costs more money than the server in the long run. working with 8k raw footage is a nightmare by itself, having them waiting more than they absolutely need to harms the quality of the work they do and their motivation.

    its so frustrating. imagine playing a game at 10 fps, thats what it feels like editing 8k raw footage even on the best pc there is.

  • Neil Yoder
    Neil Yoder 12 dagar sedan +3

    You know you can maybe stop using 8k. It's a total waste.

    • Diego2112Gaming
      Diego2112Gaming 9 dagar sedan

      He made a video on why he switched to get 8k, and it actually makes sense on account of his bread and butter comes from making videos.
      Just as his petabyte project seems absurdly overkill for the workaday computer user, it makes lots of sense for his media group.
      Heck, I'm not even a paid SEclipsr (yet, I have two videos) and just the footage I captured for my most recent video was over 4GB (raw, after cuts it was substantially smaller).
      I guess what I'm driving at is it makes sense for him and his team, and he has very specific reasons why he uses that option.

  • I'm Jack's Nipples
    I'm Jack's Nipples 12 dagar sedan

    or you could stop using cameras that are way out ofy our production league

  • ESISTOBSTIMHAUS
    ESISTOBSTIMHAUS 12 dagar sedan

    Nutanix is the technology to go.

  • Tim Igoe
    Tim Igoe 12 dagar sedan

    You just know you want to go ahead and build an insane solution with several storinators, a ton of NVME's, some ludicrous networking and more shiny tech than you can shake a stick at... do it, just for us! :)

  • rai x
    rai x 12 dagar sedan

    Where is your "Sound Proofing Foam" that you installed in your server room Linus?

  • Sascha Kuhn
    Sascha Kuhn 12 dagar sedan +2

    All this for 8k video editing, uploading in 4k and most people can watch it in 1080p. Yeah makes sense.

    • Juan Baca
      Juan Baca 7 dagar sedan

      Agreed. He is making an unnecessary problem for himself by filming in 8k. But he mentions all the time that he is an enthusiast for new technology, so he basis his channel on trying to find unique solutions to these new technologies. This video alone probably paid for his new server upgrade lol.

  • jimbobbyrnes
    jimbobbyrnes 12 dagar sedan

    so it has a limited amount of writes like a SSD and at times its still as slow as a hard drive. Linus WTF?

  • Talonhawk Gaming
    Talonhawk Gaming 12 dagar sedan

    Why not try using unraid? it is already set up to use your ssd as cash for your hard drive I realize you will have less overall storage due to the parity drives but would it not make up for that in being able to self back its data up?

  • JRE World
    JRE World 12 dagar sedan

    The better question is why are you using 8k. 95% of people aren't even watching this in 4k

  • Roni Alush
    Roni Alush 12 dagar sedan

    More cache less cash

  • Caleb Whiting
    Caleb Whiting 12 dagar sedan +12

    You need to get Wendell in again to teach you linux.

  • Ledimestari
    Ledimestari 12 dagar sedan

    Tell Taran to make videos again. He had interesting subjects.